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hostage, but the economy as well. production can't continue as long as this uncertainty. >> alisyn: jonathan, they don't think that they are he' holding the american people hostage, they think they're standing on principle so when both sides think they are he' standing on principle, how are they ever going to meet in the middle by december 31st? >> well, and the president's standing on principle and standing on the wrong principle. he's standing on the principle that the rich have to pay for entitlement state. obama believes that the rich have to pay for his entitlement spending, the result of course is more redistribution, less wealth. less production and who will he blame when the time comes if the economy is weak? he'll blame the rich of course. yes, people are standing on principles and i think they are he' standing on the wrong principles, that's government spending and control creates wealth. we know it doesn't, but yet, that seems to be the direction at least many on the left want to bring us down. >> alisyn: let's say the worst happens and let's say that the fiscal cliff, w
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